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	<title>Comments on: The Ideal Candidate</title>
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		<title>By: J. Lynne</title>
		<link>http://jlynne.exit-23.net/2008/01/07/the-ideal-candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-877</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Lynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 19:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t watch the ads.  Can&#039;t stand them.  The closer it gets to an election, the more agitated I get and the more stuff I record so I can fast-forward through the commercials.

I tend to agree with you about the &quot;mud-slinging&quot;.  To me, it&#039;s useless bickering generally over things that don&#039;t have to do with the campaign.  Stuff like the attacks on John Kerry&#039;s military career or his wife&#039;s fortune or Chelsea Clinton&#039;s awkward childhood appearance or how old Barbara Bush appears or Nancy Reagan&#039;s astrologers.  It&#039;s also niggling nitpicking over so-called half-facts that aren&#039;t the whole truth and only serve to call the other person into question and in a sense dishonor him or her.

I do think it&#039;s appropriate to hold our candidates responsible for their legislative affairs and even to their promises, but I also think it&#039;s important to hold our candidates to the standards they set for each other.  For example, if Obama says Edwards is &quot;unelectable&quot; for some reason, then he better make certain that he doesn&#039;t also fit the bill.  I think it&#039;s not only time for responsible legislators, but non-hypocritical ones.

Unfortunately for me, I&#039;ve been listening to the all-politics/all-the-time that&#039;s been on t.v. the last few days.  I&#039;m far more impressed with the candidates when they aren&#039;t in the same room together.  I kind of have to admit that while I still plan to vote for a Democrat who&#039;s pretty much not even showing in the polls if he makes it to our primary, I no longer feel like I might be physically ill should Hillary Clinton or Obama get the nomination.  In fact, I would prefer Hillary over Obama at the moment and I certainly would prefer either of them over Edwards (if he would just stop saying the same thing over and over...), but that&#039;s if I had to pick a front-runner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t watch the ads.  Can&#8217;t stand them.  The closer it gets to an election, the more agitated I get and the more stuff I record so I can fast-forward through the commercials.</p>
<p>I tend to agree with you about the &#8220;mud-slinging&#8221;.  To me, it&#8217;s useless bickering generally over things that don&#8217;t have to do with the campaign.  Stuff like the attacks on John Kerry&#8217;s military career or his wife&#8217;s fortune or Chelsea Clinton&#8217;s awkward childhood appearance or how old Barbara Bush appears or Nancy Reagan&#8217;s astrologers.  It&#8217;s also niggling nitpicking over so-called half-facts that aren&#8217;t the whole truth and only serve to call the other person into question and in a sense dishonor him or her.</p>
<p>I do think it&#8217;s appropriate to hold our candidates responsible for their legislative affairs and even to their promises, but I also think it&#8217;s important to hold our candidates to the standards they set for each other.  For example, if Obama says Edwards is &#8220;unelectable&#8221; for some reason, then he better make certain that he doesn&#8217;t also fit the bill.  I think it&#8217;s not only time for responsible legislators, but non-hypocritical ones.</p>
<p>Unfortunately for me, I&#8217;ve been listening to the all-politics/all-the-time that&#8217;s been on t.v. the last few days.  I&#8217;m far more impressed with the candidates when they aren&#8217;t in the same room together.  I kind of have to admit that while I still plan to vote for a Democrat who&#8217;s pretty much not even showing in the polls if he makes it to our primary, I no longer feel like I might be physically ill should Hillary Clinton or Obama get the nomination.  In fact, I would prefer Hillary over Obama at the moment and I certainly would prefer either of them over Edwards (if he would just stop saying the same thing over and over&#8230;), but that&#8217;s if I had to pick a front-runner.</p>
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		<title>By: Thud</title>
		<link>http://jlynne.exit-23.net/2008/01/07/the-ideal-candidate/comment-page-1/#comment-876</link>
		<dc:creator>Thud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 02:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kind of like watching the horse race, at least from afar -- I read transcripts and watch the occasional speech and give the debates a miss as they&#039;re all mostly fluff. I think the really important thing is not to look at the ads or the campaign but what people have actually done. 

It&#039;s kind of funny -- maybe it&#039;s because I don&#039;t watch the performances -- but I get a different opinion of Hillary Clinton. She may have tweaked her campaign style here or there, but she hasn&#039;t tweaked what her stand is.

So far, though, I&#039;ve been impressed at how substantive the discussions I&#039;ve heard have been. (That&#039;s comparatively substantive.) &quot;Mud-slinging&quot; I tend to think of not as criticizing your opponents but criticizing them for trivial and unfair reasons. I think it&#039;s appropriate to hold our candidates responsible for their legislative affairs, but if, say, Obama started making snide remarks about Clinton&#039;s marriage -- that would be mud-slinging.

&lt;em&gt;Thud&#039;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.thudfactor.com/blogosphere/if-you-are-new-here/&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;If you are new here?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kind of like watching the horse race, at least from afar &#8212; I read transcripts and watch the occasional speech and give the debates a miss as they&#8217;re all mostly fluff. I think the really important thing is not to look at the ads or the campaign but what people have actually done. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s kind of funny &#8212; maybe it&#8217;s because I don&#8217;t watch the performances &#8212; but I get a different opinion of Hillary Clinton. She may have tweaked her campaign style here or there, but she hasn&#8217;t tweaked what her stand is.</p>
<p>So far, though, I&#8217;ve been impressed at how substantive the discussions I&#8217;ve heard have been. (That&#8217;s comparatively substantive.) &#8220;Mud-slinging&#8221; I tend to think of not as criticizing your opponents but criticizing them for trivial and unfair reasons. I think it&#8217;s appropriate to hold our candidates responsible for their legislative affairs, but if, say, Obama started making snide remarks about Clinton&#8217;s marriage &#8212; that would be mud-slinging.</p>
<p><em>Thud&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.thudfactor.com/blogosphere/if-you-are-new-here/'>If you are new here?</a></em></p>
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